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Post by gregggagliardi on Mar 17, 2013 17:10:09 GMT -8
There is a limit to how much one can learn about climbing technique from narrative descriptions and diagrams.
The message in Freedom 9 needs to stress (1) watching videos of experienced climbers (2) guided practice of particular types of moves (in the gym or at the crag) and (3) video feedback of the students actual climbing.
This section of Freedom 9, even more than others, needs links to multi-media materials. One radical stance would be to present no info on climbing techniques on the theory that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing (drink not or deep from the Pyerian stream). Instead the reader would be redirected to other multi-media sources or guides or courses. Freedom 9, if expanded beyond a text, could provide multimedia education material.
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Post by nicklyle on Mar 24, 2013 17:52:53 GMT -8
I am a text-oriented learner, so I would prefer to see the basic moves described and illustrated in the text. I think this can be useful so that the learner has some categories and concepts in mind when they are then exposed to video or real climbing. I think it is helpful to have some basic concepts to serve as nuclei for the deeper knowledge and experience to accrue to.
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Post by gregggagliardi on Mar 25, 2013 9:11:11 GMT -8
Diagrams accompanied by video demos would seem to be the best of both worlds. There are also lots of folks who are visual learners and still others who are hands-on kinesthetic learners.
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Post by nicklyle on Mar 25, 2013 23:08:25 GMT -8
Best of all, you can be all three kinds of learner. ;D
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Post by loniuchytil on Mar 29, 2013 7:17:32 GMT -8
When I first started rock climbing I was mostly sport climbing and then leading on bolts but really wanted to learn about trad climbing. Someone told me to read john Longs book on anchors so i did. It did not really make any sense to me until I actually started to build and use the gear and then everything fell into place. All the pictures and diagrams were of little help until I saw it put to use. I think videos would be wonderful though!!
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Post by nicklyle on May 17, 2013 17:16:33 GMT -8
Videos are a great idea. I have been using a great series of videos to learn a lot of tree climbing and arborculture techniques. These videos were largely shot by a skilled tree climber using a helmet-cam to show what the climbing techniques are really like. These videos are very effective, with a sense of reality and immediacy that you can't get out of a book. On the other hand, when I need to look up a specific technique or a special knot, the written texts are what I go to because I can find the information fast and quickly remind myself of the specifics.
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Post by gregggagliardi on May 20, 2013 15:13:25 GMT -8
Yep.Combine those two sources of education (diagrams, modeling by a skilled expert) with instructor feedback and videotaping of the student's climbing and the package is particularly efficacious. This is how it is often done in other sports. Informative feedback promotes quick learning; uninformative feedback (failure with little else) mainly promotes frustration.
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